Shannon

11:00AM 11:00AM Apr 23rd 2009

I'm glad that you think this is such a laughing matter. You say that the Gitmo interrogation tactics are wrong? So what about 9/11? Was that ok? You think that someone has the right to jump on a plane and then crash it into a building filled with people? If someone, or some country, as made a public threat to our country, we have all rights to go about trying to prevent another attack. But next time, when they crash a plane into your place of work, we'll just turn our heads the other way and say "It's ok. We could have prevented this, but we don't want to violate the rights of someone who has come to our country ILLEGALLY to kill our friends and family." So what would your interrogation tactics be? Would you serve them a nice candlelit steak dinner and ask them over wine what attacks they are planning next? Try it and see how it works out for you. Last time I checked, Al-Queda wasn't too worried about our human rights, why should we be worried about theirs?

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FireEagle

11:04PM 11:04PM Apr 23rd 2009

trogers you are idiot.
Magna Carta required King John of England to proclaim certain rights (pertaining to nobles and barons), respect certain legal procedures, and accept that his will could be bound by the law. It explicitly protected certain rights of the King's subjects, whether free or fettered — most notably the writ of habeas corpus, allowing appeal against unlawful imprisonment.

Now we know that it was a British protection for Kings subjects.

On Bush, Cheney and Rice they have kept us save for 7 years. Thanks to their efforts they prevented several attempted 9/11, like the cell in the United States that was getting ready to take planes into the L.A. Library which would have killed thousands of people. If that were to happen then you would be calling for the indictment of Bush, Cheney and Rice!

THE OTHER THING YOU ARE FORGETTING IS THAT IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES!!! That is like us passing a max speed limit of 30 miles/hour and then arresting troger because he drove 70 miles an hour 2 years ago.

Waterboarding is done to our soldiers so that they can learn how to deal with it.
The other technique was a caterpillar put in to a room with a terrorist suspect that was afraid of bugs. WOW.. now you are talking severe pain there.

But you can forgive the terrorists that chopped of the heads of American soldiers and journalists.
Get educated and read the released memos of what they did to extract of intelligence information, saving American lives. These techniques demonstrated to Nancy Pelosi, Rockefeller, Harmond and several other members of congress in 2007, they not only did not object but asked how soon can it be instigated.

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falling

4:57PM 4:57PM Apr 25th 2009

TRogers, Read the report before you go spouting off. Anyone who reads this whole report will see how rediculous this whole conversation is! Even the number of times these three men were waterboarded is being spun! They were allowed to interrogate these men no more than 5 times in a 30 day period, no more than twice in any 24 hour period. When waterboarding each session could last no more than 12 minutes, each "pour" could be between 10 and 40 sec, with no more than one 40 sec pour per 12 minute session. Each "pour" was counted as a seperate incident...so do the math...in one session many 10 sec pours and they are now reporting them as separate waterboarding incidences. The truth is that this is nothing more than a political ruse to distract from the fact that more and more people are waking up to the horror that is the Obama administration! It seems like every time one of his appointees opens their mouths they shove their foot in deeper! Obama himself has no clue what he is doing...just jumping from speech to speech, promise to promise and getting absolutely NOTHING done! How much of this huge spending bill is going to end up in the pockets of politicians, both state and federal! We all knew that Obama had no experience at all, but far too many were fooled by his pretty, empty teleprompter read speeches, now we are all paying the price. And it is going to get much, much worse before it gets better!

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FireEagle

10:12AM 10:12AM Apr 24th 2009

Hairy,
I am sorry about your wife's layoff. You are partly correct. We sort of contributed to the problem, in the people that we elect to the Congress and the White House. That is why it is imperative that we remove Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed, Barney Franks and Chris Dodd and others just as guilty, from office as soon as possible. If you vote for them you are voting for more of the same.


from.. Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto by Mark Levin. (For a more complete transcript read the book).


"Event 1: In 1977, Congress passed the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) to address alleged discrimination by banks in making loans to poor people and minorities in the inner cities (redlining). ..."

"Event 2: In 1992, the Department of Housing and Urban Development pressured two government-chartered corporations-known as Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae- to purchase (or “securitize”) large bundles of these loans for the conflicting purposes of diversifying the risk and making even more money available to banks to make further risky loans. Congress also passed the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act, eventually mandating that these companies buy 45 percent of all loans from people of low and moderate incomes. ..."

"Event 3: A by-product of this government intervention and social engineering was a financial instrument call the “derivative, “ which turned the subprime mortgage market into a ticking time bomb that would magnify the housing bust by orders of magnitude. ..."

"Event 4: The Federal Reserve Board’s role in the housing boom-and-bust cannot be overstated. The Pacific Research Institute’s Robert P. Murphy explains that “ The federal Reserve] slashed interest rates repeatedly starting n January 2001, from 6.5 percent until they reached a low in June 2003 of 1.0 percent. (In nominal terms, this was the lowest the target rate had been in the entire data series maintained by the St. Louis Federal Reserve, going back to 1982)… When the easy-money policy became too inflationary for comfort, the Fed (under [Alan] Greenspan and then new Chairman Ben Bernanke at the end) began a steady process of raising interest rates back up, from 1.0 percent in June 2004 to 5.25 percent in June 2006… Therefore, when the Federal Reserve abandoned its role as steward of the monetary system and used interest rates to artificially and inappropriately manipulate the housing market, it interfered with normal market conditions and contributed to destabilizing the economy. ..."

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