FireEagle

10:51AM 10:51AM Apr 13th 2009

"You reap what you sow". When you elect a radical socialist like Obama, you end up with a depressed economy, just like FDR. The "Change" that Obama talked about is happening. Kill the free market and let government give you jobs. Of course they can only hire you until the money runs out.

Instead, Obama could have been a hero. He could have cut the capital gains tax, lower taxes on small businesses, which employ 70% of the work force.
Think this is a radical idea? It has been done before. After President Carter, terrible economy, President Reagan did just that, and we had the greatest surge in the economy in history. Business where hiring. Interest rates dropped. Obama could have done that. Instead he is spending your money, more than 11 trillion dollars that you will be paying for decades to come.

You can't spend your way out of debt.

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Val Fitzgerald

2:58PM 2:58PM May 1st 2009

"You reap what you sow"

When you elect a NeoCON like George W. Bush, you end up with a super-depressed economy, just like the one that his father, George H. W. Bush, left for us. The only--THE ONLY REASON that Daddy's foul economy was so thoroughly dwarfed by Sonny Boy's, is that, (as a favorite bumper-sticker of mine stated, in 2004):

(With a picture of Cheney on one side of bumper sticker, picture of Bush on the other side):


Four More Years:
Because it takes EIGHT Years, to destroy America!

Well--that's exactly what happened. I wondered when you POS's would blame the economy on Obama. This Democrat isn't going to let you get away with it. He hasn't even been in power for 100 days!

The economy has been going down the toilet for the past two years. The mortgage disaster and the jobs disaster--both hallmarks of REPUBLICAN (Bush) administrations--finally killed the economy. The TARP program began in OCTOBER 2008.

(Hmmm...who was president in OCTOBER? The small letter on the word 'president' should provide you with a hint, LOL!...) Who can forget Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson going from news show to news show, explaining just WHY we had to bail his banks out?

And you blame Obama?!

You sorry piece of absolute, Republican Garbage! (I'm being VERY polite, here...children may be reading this) You were supposed to wait at least till the end of April!

You're supposed to wait for OBama's First Hundred Days to be over. That's be April 30. Don't you listen to ANYTHING your fat waddling bloated gasbag Rush tells you?! Even a junkie like Rush Limp-bough knows not to try to shift the blame for this Republican Great Depression-in-the-making, away from Bush and onto Obama--not before he's had his First One Hundred Days to try to fix it!

As for FDR? Wow, you don't give up, do you? My parents told me all about it. How the Republicans hated FDR for putting Americans back to work. (OPA, WPA, etc). In order to do that, FDR had to pump huge amounts of money into the game.

FDR did this for EIGHT YEARS. Then--he decided to LISTEN TO THE REPUBLICANS. He said in effect: "This was YOUR DEPRESSION. If I stop spending money, it'll come right back. Here's a small demonstration..."
and he tightened the Federal spigot for a few months.

Immediately the economy went back into the toilet. But FDR was ready--he put the programs back into place. This is what a Democrat does. And then we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, and what did FDR do?

He got on the radio and talked about how "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself". No running out and taping windows up for either FDR OR his people. And note--FDR did NOT bomb Belgium nor falsely blame them for Pearl Harbor!

He put the blame for Pearl, onto the perpetrators of Pearl Harbor--the Japanese. If we had a Democrat as President on 9/11, the blame for that would have been places squarely on the shoulders it belonged to: those of the SAUDI PEOPLE.

But we had a POS,--your good buddy Bush--who was fast friends with those Saudis, and, knowing that 9/11 was THE ONLY THING that would stop the Fla. recount that would have had us all saying "President Gore"--so began the absolute disaster that we have just come out of. The one, FireEagle, the Bush presidency, which has given us the Second Republican Great Depression. Or as it is now and always will be known as:--the Bush Depression.

Now, your own leaders have told you that Obama gets 100 days to reverse what it took Republicans eight years to accomplish--the financial destruction of this country. So you can't blame Obama just yet. Even your 5-year-olds won't buy that garbage.

You have to wait until President Barack Obama's First Hundred Days is up, anyway.

And you'll be bleating in the wind in any case. EVERYONE knows who caused this Second Republican Depression.

In other words: if you want to finger President (now HE gets the capital-letter "P" in front of his title!)
Obama--and of course you do--for something that even most of your own tribe recognize was Republican through and through--you have to wait until the end of April, when President Obama has been in office for his first One Hundred Days.

After all, it was YOU PEOPLE who decided to throw Bush under the bus (deservedly so, but all the same, if Bush deserves to end up under that bus, the rest of you pigs belong there right along with him! That, somehow, never occurs to you, does it?)

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kryss

11:29PM 11:29PM Apr 13th 2009

couldn't have said it better Val!

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Stanlord

12:48AM 12:48AM Apr 14th 2009

Yes....it was a good bit of fiction. Maybe Michael Moore will make it into a movie. If it was a documentary, he'd have to include the DEMOCRATS in charge of the Finance and Banking committees that gave government backed loans to people with no jobs that allowed them to buy $100000+ houses which then sit empty after being forclosed on and then were ransacked for scrap copper and fixtures making those same house a condemned deathtrap/crackhouse and put on a waiting list to be demolished and adding to pollution and landfill shortages. Thanks Democrats for your wonderful contribution.

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FireEagle

3:53AM 3:53AM Apr 14th 2009

oh where should I begin..... I did not say that Obama started this financial mess, I am saying he is exacerbating it.

Second, Bush did not create the Financial mess. It started long before Bush ever took office. The congress regulates the banking. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd push the banks to loan money to people that could not make the payments. When I bought my home I had to come up with 20% down and had to prove I had a job and could make the payments based on 1% of my monthly income. Then the liberal dumocrats decided that every one should be able to own a home. So Barney and Chris force the banks to make these risky loans. And we all know about how Dodd got a sweetheart loan from CountryWide. The Republicans in 2003 asked Franks and Dodd about the financial stability of the banking system and these loans. They said.. no problem, everything is fine.

Bush was an idiot for doing the Tarp bailouts with no over site. I never said he was not at fault. For the most part I agreed with a lot of Bush's policies. The Tarp funds was not one of them. The other was not securing the boarders. It took 8 years of Clinton ignoring the terrorist attacking us that we got 9/11. Leaving Bush to deal with that. He removed 2 dictatorships and removed the threat of more attacks. If he had not attacked Iraq, and Al-Qaeda from Iraq had attacked the U.S. the citizens would have been demanded that he be removed from office. Instead he gave us 7 and 1/2 years of no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. When 9/11 occurred the economy went into a tailspin, it soon turned around with in a year because of President Bush. I know I saw it in my 401k.

Now back to your pump money into the economy. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are pumping fake money into the economy with the stimulus bill that is full of government pork that is not sustainable.. Most of this money will not hire people until 2011. This is money that has to be repaid, by your children and their children and maybe even longer. You can not spend your way out of a financial collapse.

Even the Government Budget office has said that if we did nothing we would start seeing the economy start to improve with in a year.

Does it not make sense to reduce the taxes on the small business owner that employees 70% of the people. They start hiring people out of work. These people start buying again. Buying houses, or making house payments again. Buying cars. I see that Obama is buying 17,000 cars. Why does Obama need 17,000 cars? I thought people were critical of someone owning 7 houses. The reason he is buying the cars is to help the car unions (democrats), not the automakers or the economy. Why are Honda, and Toyota, with plants here in the U.S. not begging for handouts?? Because they do not have unions bleeding them dry, like the big three automakers. The union workers make $30 more than the other automakers' workers. Well if the big three automakers go belly up where are the workers going to get their wages then??
http://www.unionfacts.com/
The Center for Union Facts (CUF) released a unique new poll which found that 82% of non-unionized American workers would not like their jobs to be unionized.

The poll, which was conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation of Princeton, New Jersey, clearly demonstrates that an overwhelming number of Americans have no interest in joining a union.

Our deficit has gone from 1/2 trillion dollars under Bush, to 11 trillion under Obama. It will take us generations to pay that off. As I said in my original statement Obama could have been a hero. He could have cut capital gains taxes and the economy would have started turning around. Instead Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and other Statist (modern liberals) like Obama and are nationalizing the Banks, the automakers, the healthcare, and everything else they can control. They want to cap executive salaries..fine.. do that,, except congress and Obama will not cap their own salaries. But now they want to go after everyone's salary. So do you want the government to decide how much you make?? "Well sure they will raise my salary"!!.. so I will make a bunch more money. WELL WHO IN THE HELL IS GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR SALARY INCREASE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE GOVERNMENT REDUCES YOUR CURRENT SALARY.. no so funny now uh buba ..

"As the Statist (modern liberal) is building a culture of conformity and dependency, where the ideal citizen takes on a dronelike qualities in service to the state, the individual must be drained of uniqueness and self-worth, and deterred from independent thought and behavior. This is achieved through varying methods of economic punishment and political suppression. "

from 'Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto' by Mark Levin

The whole reason for magnifying this crisis by blowing it out of proportion is so that the Statist can do a power grab of the wealth of this country. They blame the free market system and say it has failed and they must fix it. WELL EXCUSE ME MR PRESIDENT AND THE LIBERALS IN CONGRESS (Democrats and Republicans, and others) . What has failed is the Liberals trying to create their socialist agenda in a free market system. Why do we have to bail out people that never should have bought a home in the first place because they could not afford the house that they purchased, nor even prove they had a job. I know because I have friends and relatives that qualified for houses that they should have never, ever bought or been qualified by the lender for. I have paid on my house for 25 years and never missed a payment, but these liberals are now going to raise my taxes and my kids taxes and their kids taxes, to pay for these people or corporations that have been fiscally irresponsible. Now Obama is saying he will not tax people that make under $150,000 well that is not true, they have already lowered the tax tables to start taxing your first dollar instead starting at $150. He will tax the small business that I work for which means they will not be able to employ all the people that they have, so they will layoff people who will now need help from Mr. Obama. Thus adding to the burden of the Government. If I go to the casino and spend my paycheck on the slot machines, and I lose it all, do you want to pay me until I can get my next pay check?? Well that is what the government is doing with your money.

“The Statist believes in the supremacy of the state, thereby rejecting the principles of the Declaration and the order of a civil society, in whole or part. For the Modern Liberal, the individuals imperfection and personal pursuits” (bettering ones self) “ impede the objective of a Utopian state. In this, Modern Liberalism promotes what the French historian Alexis de Tocqueville described as a soft tyranny, which becomes increasingly more oppressive, potentially leading to hard tyranny (some form of totalitarianism). As the word “liberal” is, in its classical meaning, the opposite of authoritarian, it is more accurate, therefore, to characterize the Modern liberal as a Statist.

The Founders understood that the greatest threat to liberty is an all-powerful central government, where the few dictate to the many. They also knew that the rule of the mob would lead to anarchy and , in the end despotism.”
from 'Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto' by Mark Levin

Despotism – The exercise of absolute power.

This nationalizing of the economy will kill the free market, which has made this country great for over 200 years. During this 200 years, American has passed other countries that have been in existence for thousands of years, to become one of the leading economic leaders of the free world.

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FireEagle

4:42AM 4:42AM Apr 14th 2009

Hey Pal,
" FDR did this for EIGHT YEARS. Then--he decided to LISTEN TO THE REPUBLICANS. He said in effect: "This was YOUR DEPRESSION. If I stop spending money, it'll come right back. Here's a small demonstration..."
and he tightened the Federal spigot for a few months.

Immediately the economy went back into the toilet."
Of course it went into the toilet because it is not sustainable by spending government money, you are not producing goods that you can sell for a profit. You are creating busy work...
The War was what ended the great depression.

Val said "FDR did NOT bomb Belgium nor falsely blame them for Pearl Harbor" what and idiot you are. I am so glad you are not our commander in Chief, but of course we have Obama..
You should read the history books. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, but we declared war on the Axis powers. We not only bombed the Japanese but we also bombed the Germans and the Italians. If we had only bombed the Japanese the Germans would have bomb us. If we had fought the war sooner, there is a possibility that the Axis powers might have been overcome easier. As it was because we waited so long the world almost became an Axis state.

For your information, Islamist terrorists affiliated with al-Qaeda hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners on 9/11. They were citizens of several countries. Iraq had al-Qaeda terrorists, as well as Afghanistan. Iraq attacked Kuwait, We should have take Iraq then. And not bowed down to the U.N. for 12 years while Hussein killed his people with mustard gas. The intelligence reports said that they were getting WMD's. Even Hussein generals thought that Hussein had WMD's. The congressional Democrats on the Foreign Intelligence committee, saw the same reports that Bush saw. They agreed to fund the war.

So I guess in your way of thinking we should have bombed the Somali people because of what the pirates did in hijacking the US flagged ship last week. Obama did the correct thing he left it up to the military commanders to take care of the situation. He did not try and fly over there and talk them out of it. He did not tell the commanders not to fire on the pirates.

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Kaye

10:46PM 10:46PM Apr 25th 2009

The idea of having a stable job after graduation is long gone. It's a tough market out there now. Students should utilize all resources in their job search, such as those found online. One site that's specifically tailored for students is www.nuresume.com. It's a good find for me. Hope other students will grab the opportunities offered in this career network.

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Val Fitzgerald

8:25AM 8:25AM May 16th 2009

I was going to answer the economic portion of your reply to my comment, but Obama has gotten such good grades on his First 100 Days, that I'll just let that speak for itself.

About al-Quaeda, though: Bush consistently ignored warnings by Richard Clarke, his Counterterrorism Chief--a Republican like Bush himself--that al Quaeda was about to strike on our home soil. So (correctly) incensed by Bush's non-response was he, that he then wrote a book on his experiences with the lowlife who was president at the time of 9/11.

Reading that book, it's easy to see that 9/11 didn't have to happen. It's even easier to see that Bush at the time, NEEDED 9/11. His presidency was still on very shaky terms. And he didn't want to be a 1-term president like his father.

His Saudi friends bailed him out of that one, with 9/11. Here is (former) King Fahd's reasoning:

The 100-year-old lock that Great Britain has maintained on the world's ports, was ending. The Saudis--led by the Emirate of Dubai--were hot to acquire American ports--the Ports of New York, New Jersey, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Los Angeles, and Mississippi. They needed an American in the Presidency, who would rubber-stamp American approval of the deal. So the Saudis gave us 9/11--which put Bush in the White House for the next 8 years. And Bush promptly did what he does best--began his lies about how "Saddam was implicit in 9/11" along with a whole load of other bullshit. Bush knew that 9/11 was a Saudi operation from start to finish. His presidency was devoted to making sure that Americans never found out. I wouldn't have known either, except that my family's had extensive experience in the Middle East, and we also knew that al Quaeda didn't come into Iraq UNTIL A YEAR AFTER BUSH ATTACKED. Al Quaeda (trans. The Base) was always Saudi. It was Bush who gave us al Quaeda as a terrorist organization.

Did the Saudis pay for 9/11? They did not--that was Bush's doing. He took an anguished and horrified population, and pointed his fingers well away from his Saudi friends. Here are the numbers--do with them what you will, you still can't change them.

FIFTEEN of the NINETEEN hi-jackers were Saudi. FIFTEEN! Of the others, one was Egyptian, one was Algerian, one Lebanese I believe, the other I forget, and the 20th was supposed to be Moussaui.

The Saudis wanted the world's ports big-time. Bush as President, would have given them that prize. Only thing was, enough Americans did NOT believe Bush, that the Saudis were frustrated in their ambitions to own our ports. That's why today they're not talking to Bush. Their attack on us put Bush firmly in power for eight years. They knew what a liar Bush is--they figured that he'd overcome any resistance to the Ports idea.

What they DIDN'T figure on, what that America knew enough about Bush to not believe a word that he said. Oh at first we did--yes, Bush was a born liar, but even a psychopath like him knew that there was a time to lie and a time to keep your lying mouth shut. And Bush--believing his own press--blathered on and on.

Those of us who knew the Middle East--even a little bit--knew that Bush's lies about 9/11 (Saddam! WMD! Everybody RUN AND BUY DUCT TAPE) were horrified.

FireEagle--I realized how deep the fix was in when--instead of invading and NUKING Riyadh (proper response to an attack on our soil, by a perpetrator) we instead, INVADED IRAQ!

Iraq is after all, the deadly enemy of Riyadh--Saudi Arabia. So, in response to a Riyadh operation, 9/11--we instead of invading those pigs, we instead invaded the land of THEIR DEADLY ENEMIES, the IRAQI PEOPLE--with whom the Saudis have long shared a common, well-disputed border.

So, 9/11 remains unavenged. But what can you expect of a cowardly, lying scumbag like Bush,--who couldn't even serve his term in the National Guard?

No, Bush didn't 'keep us safe for eight years'. He didn't listen to Clarke, who kept giving him updates on 9/11 planning--he let his business AND family friends, the Saudis (Aramco, remember?) attack us WITH IMPUNITY and even went to far as to slake our normal blood lust at having been attacked, with lies, deceit, and in general, traitorous behavior all through his presidency.

THAT'S WHY Bush will forever be known as the worst president that America has ever suffered through. We were able to get rid of his father after only four years of damage--but his son has given us America's Second Great Depression, and so it will be forever known--no matter how much you people lie and obfuscate--as the Bush Depression.

The millions of people who have lost their homes in this Bush disaster, will be teaching their children how to vote, how to get involved in politics and above all, how to avoid the lever marked "R" in favor of the one marked "D" or "I" in the voting booth--and how to teach their own kids--our grandkids--that most essential bit of knowledge.

No wonder you all hate Bush--even though he did do his level best for you through eight long years of economic disaster.

It never occurs to you that it wasn't so much that Bush is bad--as that the Republican ideas are bad, they're old, they never did work, and the last time before this one that America tried them, was Herbert Hoover's first Great Depression.

I give you this website: it's from Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2009. (Bill Gates' Microsoft--now HE'S no liberal, is he?)

http:encarta.msm/com/text_761584403___0/Great_Depression_in_the_United_States.html.

It reads exactly--BUT EXACTLY!!!--like what's been going on during Bush. With the exact same result, unless Obama can stop it.

He seems to have--but he needs to do a lot more spending. FireEagle--Roosevelt knew, and Obama knows: It takes MONEY, to MAKE MONEY.

Obama hasn't finished opening the spigot--not by far. You people on the Right are going after him, hammer & tongs--you bet! His policies will after all, keep more money in people's pockets, and reverse the massive Grand Theft America, that the Bush administration perpetrated and that, in many ways, is still going on.

Obama's Hundred Days has been a helluva good start. There is still a lot more for Americans to do--including mostly, making sure that our children and THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN, know not to vote--EVER!-- for the Republican Devils.

(And to keep tight watch on America's voting machines, lest their functioning fall into the wrong hands, YET AGAIN.)

Fresh from 9/11, we believed him. (Most of us did anyway.) We didn't know then that Bush had pledged allegiance to the Saudis--the very ones who committed 9/11. Rumalia (main Saudi oilfield) was emptying rapidly as more and more nations industrialized. And there was the Kirkuk, which had the indecency to belong to the Saudis' deadly enemies, the IRAQI PEOPLE!! What to do, what to do???

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Val Fitzgerald

6:12PM 6:12PM May 1st 2009

FireEagle:

After Bush socialized our banks last October, I wonder why Obama doesn't seem to be inclined to go ahead and socialize our ENERGY SECTOR???

Here's a Socialist for you: President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. Just like Bush socialized our banks to keep them from failing on his watch--President Chavez socialized Venezuela's main source of wealth--its oil sands.

He did this, Chavez did, by kicking Shell and Exxon out of his country. "Venezuelan Oil," he explained, "belongs to the Venezuelan people. Not to Shell and Exxon." Result?

Drive up to any gas pump in Venezuela. You will pay 5 cents a gallon for your gasoline.

A NICKEL A GALLON!!!!!!!

How does Chavez make money? Well--he's now in charge of a bustling economy. Venezuela does a land-office business with Brazil and Chile and all the countries next door to Venezuela, because everyone crosses the border to buy gas in Venezuela.

In Brazil and Chile, gas at the pump is #4.50/gallon. (Divide by 4--they sell it by the liter. BUT remember that a liter is ONE FOURTH the amount of a GALLON.

Give or take an ounce or two.

YAY CHAVEZ!!!!! Thanks to him, the people in Harlem and American ghettoes all across this land, didn't go without heating oil in these past bitter eight Bush winters.

Thank God that President Barack Obama seems to be aware of President Chavez' service to ghetto-ized Americans, during the past eight years. They shook hands, and I'm sure that President Obama is reading the book that President Chavez gave him: "The Open Veins of Latin America"...

I look forward to the US and Venezuela's long ongoing partnership. WITHOUT Shell or Exxon to screw up anything...

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Val Fitzgerald

8:29AM 8:29AM May 16th 2009

Just curious--why did it take you 6 WEEKS to send me your 'blogsmith' confirmation form so that you 'could publish my post(s)'??

I posted on April 13. You did not ask for 'confirmation' until MAY 2! Weird--but telling.

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Val

8:31AM 8:31AM May 16th 2009

Now THAT'S MORE LIKE IT! This last post, you responded to RIGHT AWAY!

Maybe you were just 'shorthanded' before?

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