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So, it's over. Now's the time to see what people think.
I watched the debate with a group of 15 or so communications/journalism students and everyone was on the same page. Biden is the man.
Under the circumstances, Palin didn't do too badly. It was easy to feel sorry for her knowing that everyone was just sitting around to dissect every word she said, which they did. A few of the statements that caught attention were:
"I'm an outsider." In reaction, senior Kyle Hayes said, "Wow, she basically just admitted she is inexperienced. Way to go, babe."
Palin talking about her "diverse" family and friends (apparently she has one lesbian friend...who knew?) Junior Amanda Nasso said, " I wouldn't consider Palin a friend. What kind of friend openly says they don't want you to have the same rights granted to you? And she is using that friend as an example, it's not right."
The debate drew quite a bit of laughter from the group, especially at the beginning when the mediator said, quite bluntly, that Palin was not answering the questions.
"She just kind of talked around everything," junior Sarah Jones said. "I'm not sure if she actually answered any of the questions."
It will be interesting to see what the general American public thinks of the debate. From what has been on the news so far, it was a victory for both ends. Palin didn't completely embarrass herself and Biden didn't come off as a bully. Students were concerned that all they seemed to talk about was voting records, however.
"All they talked about was what they had voted for in the past. That stuff doesn't matter much anymore. I wanted to know what they plan on doing for the future, and it didn't really come across," senior Susan Pedrotti said.
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SCHOLASTICA
9:43AM 9:43AM Oct 3rd 2008
HELP ME PLEASE....WAS THIS NOT A DEBATE WITH QUESTIONS TO BE RESPONDED TO BY THE CANDIDATES. PALIN SKIRTED AROUND MANY QUESTIONS PLACED ON THE FLOOR, AND LITERALLY GOT LOST UP IN SENTENCES LEADING TO NO WHERE. THAT, IN ADDITION TO SOUNDING LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL CHEERLEADER. SHE BETTER BE GLAD THAT HILLARY WAS NOT HER OPPONENT. CAN YOU PICTURE HER SITTING WITH WORLD LEADERS, GOD FORBID, SHOULD SHE HAVE THIS OFFICE DROPPED INTO HER LAP. "YOU BETCHA" WOULD NOT GO OVER WELL. IF THIS WOMAN ENDS UP IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WILL BE ON BRAIN LOCK DOWN FOR FOUR YEARS, AND WITH THE WORLD SITUATION AS IT IS, WE WILL BE ...........OH I HATE TO SAY WHAT THAT WILL ENTAIL FOR US AS A NATION.
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jackie
12:17PM 12:17PM Oct 3rd 2008
amen
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buddycro
10:57AM 10:57AM Oct 3rd 2008
And you think it would be better with a muslim president?
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BN
11:01AM 11:01AM Oct 3rd 2008
You talk about Palin not having enough experience and she has been working in Government longer then Obama.
Obama only has 178 days on the job as a Senator.
Could you be a CEO of any company after working there for only 178 days.
You better stop thinking about how nice Obama looks and how well he speaks by bringing emotions into his responses and start paying attention to his solutions. His solutions will not work.
Example:
He wants to tax oil company's an extra .10 cents per gallon.
Do you think for one minute that they are not going to just pass that on to us?
You and others need to start thinking through Obama solutions and stop being attracted to him because he is different and looks good. Just because someone speaks well doesn't mean what they are saying will work.
It's time to wake up people and start voting with logic instead of emotion.
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Mark
11:16AM 11:16AM Oct 3rd 2008
Buddy you are full of crap. It is so easy to identify a liberal, because you are always downing someone when they are doing a respectful job or have done something to prove that the liberals were wrong. Why don't you take a step back and re-evaluate our country and realize that the reason we are in the shape that we are in, is because of decisions that the liberals have made in the past to cause the deterioration of the moral fiber of our country. Decisons such as, partial birth abortion, same sex marriages, and I also believe it was a Democratic President that signed the Nafta Bill that has caused us to lose millions of jobs etc, etc. So please don't embarrass yourself any more,and have a good day.
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tom gu
11:23AM 11:23AM Oct 3rd 2008
I totally agree. Palin is a chocolate-covered spider who is playing the motherhood and apple pie card which appeals to low class beer drinking America. She is all fluff and no substance. She and McCain are clones of George Bush who destroyed our country in the last eight years. Obama and Biden are a breath of fresh air.
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hanna
12:09PM 12:09PM Oct 3rd 2008
oh, PLEASE! too bad YOU are not running for v.p. - better yet, YOU would do great running for PRESIDENT!
YOU seem to have ALL the answers (NOT!)
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Jimbo1492
12:27PM 12:27PM Oct 3rd 2008
It is obvious that you have not listened to Obama? Do you really think that he has the right plan for the Majority of individuals in mind? If you really believe that, I have news for you, once a Muslim always a Muslim. We, the USA, will be gutted from within if Obama is elected. Mark my words today, the rest is history.
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mervin h
5:04PM 5:04PM Oct 6th 2008
I agree........palin no substance just glitz!
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Nylzor18
4:43PM 4:43PM Oct 3rd 2008
I am a woman and believe very strongly in women's rights. That said, I will not vote for McCain/Palin just for the satisfaction of having a woman in office. This election is about far more than women's progress or getting a black man in the white house. It is about voting for the person who will better this country and keep us safe. Should McCain keel over, which is not unlikely at his age, do you want Sarah Palin running the country? Copy her hairstyle, sympathize with her life struggles, appreciate her ability to speak well, but keep her out of the white house!!! Also, why are so many people letting the prices of gas and taxes dictate who they want to lead the country? I would love cheap gasoline but my priorities are morals, safety and balance. I am in the higher tax bracket and I am ok paying more to have a country that is run well and will be a better place for my children and children's children. Greed is the source of most of our problems, anyway. Let's learn from our mistakes!
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nana
12:45PM 12:45PM Oct 3rd 2008
This is a typical response who did not either live through Carter era or other financial and newsworthy bad times. If I were Sch..............I would sit out this election, educate myself and then vote in the next one. Everyone wanted a change so congress changed and this is what we are putting up with today. We need to get away from socialistic views period.
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cme7223
12:47PM 12:47PM Oct 3rd 2008
Palin is trying to act like bush using those "down home" tricks to get close to the people. I want a President that is serious enough to care about happens to my country. I don`t want someone to sit down and have coffee with I reserve that for my friends. I wonder if palin would wink and give her chessy cat grin to diplomats while discussing world events. I prefer an adult to run my country, not a spoiled brat who thinks sexy tricks can get her what she wants.Rmember, sweetie, that not all voters are men!
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Brett
1:06PM 1:06PM Oct 3rd 2008
DID THESE BRAINWASHED IDIOT LIBERAL SHEEP HEAR PALIN CALL BIDEN OUT ON HIM SAYING HE`D BE PROUD TO RUN AS McCAINS VICE PRESIDENT ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO ? ? ?
DID YOU NOT HEAR PALIN CALL BIDEN OUT ON HIM SAYING OBAMA WAS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT AT THE DEMOCRAT DEBATES ? ? ?
DID YOU IDIOT LIBERAL TODDLERS NOT HEAR PALIN CALL BIDEN OUT ON HIM VOTING FOR WAR BFER HE FLIP FLOPPED ?
DO YOUR HOMEWORK KIDDIES, AND GOOGLE ALL THOSE ''FACTS'' THAT BIDEN THREW OUT THERE !
THERE WERE ABOUT TEN LIES BIDEN TOLD LAST NIGHT THAT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED WITH THE CLICK OF A MOUSE !
GEE I GUESS ITS EASIER TO BE SPOON FED LIBERAL TALKING POINTS, THAN TO ACTUALLY THINK AND RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF !
THIS IS THE STUPIDITY THAT DEMS COUNT ON TO WIN VOTES !
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shuwilly
1:05PM 1:05PM Oct 3rd 2008
OK...so...let me get this right...the students dont like Palin. Since when has any candidate, whether for President or VP? One must admit that no matter who the politician or where they came from, they did not get where they are by being honest or answering questions. I would expect come November, there will be so many that will use race or gender as to why their "chosen" one was not voted in by the American public. Youth is wasted on the young. That is the biggest point to most over the age of 30 who understand how things work!! Obama has some very shady people in his circle (Louis Farrakhan is but one example), at least McCain is PROUD of the country he served and doesnt have terror type extremists within his circle!
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tom
10:02PM 10:02PM Oct 3rd 2008
Please, buddycro, most of the comments here, like them or not, are intelligent. Save that stuff for other websites.
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jan
1:15PM 1:15PM Oct 3rd 2008
buddycro... Obama is not a Muslim and never has been.
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Harvardrussell
4:08PM 4:08PM Oct 3rd 2008
I have read these posts....all I can say is wow!
I've read Palin is a proble with "you bet ya" ...she wants to connect with the average person. She wouldn't talk like that professionally.
Next I read: "and a Muslim President would be better?"
I ask when did we start discriminating based on religion?
Oh I understand your point, but would the democratic party risk putting Obama in there if they had any questions of integrity? If Obama wins and he does anything that would jeopardize this country The Democratic would be finished in congress, the senate and the White House for the next 50 years. I am more concerned with who will immediatly help the middle class the most.
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Ernest Duke
2:27PM 2:27PM Oct 3rd 2008
Sarah Palin spent an hour and a half dancing around every question asked and Gwen Ifill never called her on it for fear of being labeled an un-objective moderator. How do we let the media pass this off as a debate? Palin spent the entire time making statement after statement without being challenged by Ms Ifill. Was it the ploy John McCain and his bunch of hoodlums put out there prior to the "debate" that Gwen would have a bias towards Sarah Palin that led to this fiasco? Did that tie Gwen's hands?
It is amazing that we sit around and let the powers to be and the media blow us off without being called on it by anyone that matters. It is as if all of the free thinkers in this country have decided that there is nothing that they can do about it: that protest is useless or dangerous. Have we become so afraid of those we elect that we give up our freedoms so willingly? Have we become so afraid that we will put our country in the hands of men and women who put perks for their friends and contributors ahead of the good of the people in our country?
What we call politics in America is becoming more and more like a totalitarian state. “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
We do a disservice to our forefathers and piss on their graves. We have become a nation of cowards who allow ourselves to be led by the ruthless whose only motivation is power and avarice…shame on us.
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Dean
1:53PM 1:53PM Oct 3rd 2008
Perhaps Sarah did skirt some of the questions. However, insider politicians can't give you a straight answer about 90% of the time. Sarah did great, actually. Biden, on the other hand, was factually incorrect on ten TEN different answers. You can tell Biden is lieing 'cause his lips are moving.
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Marie
2:51PM 2:51PM Oct 3rd 2008
Well just call me old fashioned or whatever you like but, I think you college kids need to grow up. Just reading those comments scares me and it scares me bad.Sarah Palin did say she had not been in Washington, and I take that as a big plus for her. Not inexperienced, that Washington experience is what has us in this mess. The comment she made about her friends did surprise me too, but, I found out she is not against gays having legal rights, just against their marriage. We do have Crime Against Nature Laws in most states, they were put there for a reason.
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